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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:06:00 -
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The best part is most of the ganked Hulks don't even use MLU's, they're going for full cargo so they can warp back to station with full holds less often.
That's right. During Hulkageddon, when people will try to kill their ships specifically, they are so against having to even seek out one other person to fly with that they'll fit mods that actually WEAKEN their ship. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
364
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:22:00 -
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Of all the ridiculous arguments that have come out of this, the suggestion that somehow a Hulk's yield is totally worthless when fit for tank is the best one. Even a fully yield-fit Covetor (which would need a 3% CPU implant along with 2 of the new CPU boosting rigs to even fit at all) has a lower yield than a Hulk without a single MLU in sight. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:33:00 -
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Ahahaha yeah, the Hulk is "just" going to get a base 57% powergrid increase. See? The miners just want small, simple tweaks! |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:39:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:When 20 PG is a 57% Increase then it is time for a second look at the ship.
Nope, it just means you misunderstood what it was ever supposed to be used for. As I said before, even with a full tank, it still outmines every other ship in the game. Whining for more grid for shields (hint: you're going to need CPU as well if you expect anyone to fit a tank with MLU's) so you can outmine other ships by even more while fitting a tank is a silly request. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:52:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Medium Shield Extender without fitting mods seems about right fr a 200mil T2 Battlecruiser sized ship. Enough to provide the protection and utility it deserves.
Go ahead and keep repeating that while you expect CCP to make superhuman buffs to an already top-of-the-line ship's CPU and PG. I wouldn't hold out hope, though. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 11:02:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:This just in MSE easily fit on Hulk = Superhuman...
It's a huge increase in base powergrid to do something it can already do with fitting mods so it can __________. I'm not even sure what the blank is. It sure as hell isn't MLU's, as that'd put the CPU way over the top. Cargo expanders maybe, but the notion of making a shield tank better just so you can make it not-great by taking out the DC and chop your hull HP's by 1/3 is...how do I put this? Probably not worth a developer's time, wouldn't you think? |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 11:09:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:It increases options with precious few slots to sacrifice and right off the bat makes it harder to gank for anyone that fits it.
That is a good five minutes work if you ask me.
You know what else would increase options? Give it enough grid for LSE's and enough CPU for a rack of MLU II's. Hell, let's triple it's drone bay while we're at it so you can fit multiple racks of medium combat drones. Even better, since the Hulk apparently isn't boss enough already, let's give it a 4th strip! With a ton more CPU and grid of course, because options. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 11:19:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:A Medium Shield Extender is not oversized in fact it is very basic and should be easily fittable to a ship like the Hulk.
And yet, its powergrid suggests otherwise! Funny that. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
364
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Posted - 2012.06.03 11:22:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Hence why it should be changed.
Good point! So quick, while I have your attention, are there any other ship hulls that you'd like to arbitrarily choose for module size upgrades or downgrades, or is it only the best mining ship in the game that caught that keen eye of yours? |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 11:39:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:It means the best "choice" is to not use it. When the best choice for a ship is to not use it, it's a telltale sign something somewhere is wrong.
It's the best "choice" not to use it if you're mining solo in highsec and refuse to either partner up with others (or use an alt) to help your survivability. For anyone who doesn't fit into this really narrow way of doing things, it's still the "best" ship to use. |
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